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>>> having read a few chapters of HPMoR, which I agree is standard for anyone who spends enough time on the Internet

>> You have to be quite unaware of your bubble if you think knowing about a niche Harry Potter fanfic is "standard" for people on the Internet.

> "niche"? It's literally one of the most read pieces of fanfiction of all time.

You jumped into a conversation about the ubiquity of something for people on the Internet. Either your claim is about that, in which case it's wrong, or it's not about that, in which case it's irrelevant.


> While he technically holds the votes required to disband the board

This is very unlikely. True Ventures almost certainly controls at least one seat. (Until Phil Black left last year they actually held two seats, but that doesn't mean they had the right to. Either way, at the moment it's just Toni Schneider.)


In most venture-backed companies no, because board seats are one of the things you give major investors in exchange for their money.

In this case? Possibly! Ann Dunwoody and Sue Decker look like independents, and he might be able to unilaterally replace either or both of them.


I've always wondered about these two. Dunwoody is a retired Army general. Decker insofar as I can tell is one of the suits who ran Yahoo into the ground. As a platform technology company why would you want these people on your board? I could see having the right sort of government suit on it, maybe. I couldn't see "turned Yahoo into an irrelevant hellhole of ads" as relevant experience.


> Decker insofar as I can tell is one of the suits who ran Yahoo into the ground.

I don't think that's really right, but it's hard to tell. In my mind, as someone who was there from 2004-2011, things were going ok while she was there. The Microsoft acquisition would have been nice from a $ point of view, and I think they could have been convinced to give all the employeed an Xbox 360, but Microsoft would have smothered the brand and its products... It's possible the acquisition would have been held up in anti-trust for a long time and a large period of uncertainty.

IMHO the running into the ground really started under Carol Bartz with the ads and search deal with Microsoft whereby Bing was supposed to take over everything. But performance in terms of latency, quality, and $/search was worse than when Yahoo was doing it and the ads and search teams at Yahoo didn't shrink as expected, because the work didn't shrink as expected. Not surprisingly, when you drop revenue and don't drop costs, financial performance does not improve.

Partnering with Google would have made more financial sense, but that wasn't an option because of anti-trust... Probably should have accepted the acquisition and accepted fate... partnering with Microsoft later was a bad choice, maybe they could have backed out once the numbers were clear.


Good information, thank you!

> As a platform technology company why would you want these people on your board?

Investors tell you to put them on the board and you do it. The worst mistake WordPress made was taking investment from private equity and assorted Wall Street types.


There's no spoofing involved. DKIM would do quite literally nothing.


Is the joke


skippyfish: > the cost of reading [an infinite supply of arguments ...] remains high

you: > The cost of reading this story is not high

Do you see where you went wrong?


Please explain where I went wrong. Please explain why the onus is on the person presenting this story to account for all of the bad uses of AI, such that we should simply dismiss the story outright. This is pure idiocy.


The onus is always on the writer. No one is owed an audience.


That's not what I said. Do you have trouble reading? Are you subliterate or just lazy?


*> That's not what I said.

So close to spotting the mistake you made in your response to skippyfish, yet so far!


pg_mooncake (now effectively abandoned due to being acquired by Databricks, but still up at https://github.com/Mooncake-Labs/pg_mooncake) pulled the DuckDB engine into Postgres wholesale, if I remember right.

pg_lake also uses DuckDB but keeps it external, routing through Postgres and managing Iceberg tables (but not the data itself) there (https://github.com/Snowflake-Labs/pg_lake).

Both of these were neck and neck with ClickHouse last time I tried them.


Actually δx is faster than the "duckdb embedded in postgres" options: https://benchmark.clickhouse.com/#system=+_etx|_b|_i)|dula|pnc&type=-&machine=-6t|ca2|6ax|g4e|6ale|3al&cluster_size=-&opensource=-&hardware=+c&tuned=+n&metric=combined&queries=-

Plus all the normal Postgres features work as expected: physical/logical replication, crash recovery, pg_dump/pg_restore, etc.


That isn't what the data shows, but we don't need to discuss it further. My reply was to the person interested in learning from other Postgres OLAP designs. This stuff is all pretty immature though and I wouldn't actually build on it outside of some very narrow, well-understood workloads.


Are you using Datafusion or parts of it for query engine


The Fuzzilli PR was merged on Nov 20. The acquisition was announced on Dec 3. A big holiday was in the middle.

The teams no longer interacted after the acquisition, and in prior interactions the Bun team would've been correct in saying they weren't fuzzing.

So Jarred isn't wrong, and Andrew also isn't wrong.


Andrew was wrong. He stealth edited his post to hide it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48854921


I'm aware he edited it, but the original version isn't wrong, either. Just like Jarred's

> We fuzz Bun's runtime APIs 24/7 using Fuzzilli, the JavaScript engine fuzzer used by V8 & JavaScriptCore

isn't wrong, even though that was only being done for the last 5-6 months of Zig Bun, and not the previous 5 years when they were accruing all of their tech debt.


I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.

If I say, "I run 5 miles every day" and my old neighbor says, "I lived next door to him until 9 months ago, and he definitely doesn't run 5 miles a day," and then I show my GPS logs proving I've been running 5 miles a day for the last 9 months, I am correct and my ex-neighbor is incorrect.

If Sumner had said, "We've been fuzzing our code for years," then Kelley could justifiably say that's incorrect. But Sumner is saying that currently Bun fuzzes their code, which is true, so Kelley appears to be incorrect to claim it is a "fabrication."


Is there a Yoda skill? -> A Yoda skill, is there?

There is a Yoda skill. -> A Yoda skill, there is.


Cavemen Yoda merge can.


I'm generally skeptical of causal narratives like this, but Naroditsky talked openly and at length about the ongoing physical and mental health effects of Kramnik's nonsense. So in this particular case, I'm comfortable blaming Kramnik either way.


> “we really do not want any distraction now, if you feel that strongly you can always send an unsolicited term sheet to the board to consider”

Nope, don't do that. If you receive a credible term sheet at a meaningfully higher valuation, you'll have to rerun your 409A, even if you don't take the investment.


Good point, will add that. Thanks!


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