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The optimism of scientific publications likewise


What if we build robots that are remote controlled by humans using tactile feedback? We could have a chassis that can work on mars while being controlled from Earth. Maybe that's one of the idea Elon has with Neuralink. A huge obstacle would be latency I guess


Message delay makes this not feasible from Earth, but it may be a pretty good solution for people living on Mars who need to do some outdoor work (construction, mining, etc..) but don't want to deal with space suits and radiation. Sending a robot in their place sounds pretty good.

On the other hand, if AI technology is good enough, you might not need the human operator except for certain complex tasks. Most of the time you might be able to get away with high-level tasks like "dig a hole here" or "load this equipment onto this rover".


If the tasks look like “we’d like someone to eventually dig out a 3x3 room for an iron smelter across from the mechanic’s workshop,” that’s just Dwarf Fortress minus the booze.


Why do you need that? Just send a datacenter with a nuclear power reactor to power it and then improve on the AI of the robots


What kind of tactile feedback will you get with a delay of an hour (or however long it takes to communicate over a million miles)? This isn't like flying a drone a scant thousand miles away...


There is no actual war on money-laundering just like there is no war on drugs. In the sense that the people that do the most money-laundering are the same people that control the institutions of the state. Invariably people indicted for money-laundering are small fries that do not have the necessary connections to be immune to indictment.


You are always free to sell the hacks for their """actual""" market value on the black market. Of course you need to launder the money, you might get jailed, you might have to flee the country and so on but at least you get your fair rate.


Or sell it to the NSA (or insert your national intelligence service here) as a defense contractor, which some might call your “patriotic duty”.


You need to setup as a defense contractor (and jump through all the hoops) just so you can sell a Zoom zero-day and realize the NSA will give you 50k?


I doubt the rates are that good tbh..


You're overcomplicating, Zerodium exists.


When you find have the answer, do change the title so we can know. Thanks


What is necessary for western society is to import more people that do not want to contribute to society besides accepting welfare. These people must be let to have on average 5-12 children to extract as many welfare benefits as they possibly can. We need more diversity so that no common ground can be found when it comes to wealth inequality. We must distract ourselves from the elephant in the room by fighting small meaningless battles amongst ourselves while the so called elites create their gated community fortresses.

Basically we must do the exact same thing as South Africa, Brazil and many other countries. In this way we will be saved.


Please stop posting ideological battle comments to HN. It leads to tedious, repetitive, and nasty threads.

We ban accounts that do that, regardless of what they're battling for or against.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


How long until programmers are forced to ditch antiquated methods of input like hands and keyboards in favor of streaming thoughts directly to your IDE? Can't wait to be forced by market forces to adopt such an interface and then promptly get ads streamed back or get brainhacked


That attitude will have to go, cause that space for that attitude is need for some upgrade. I dread this world. One could glimps it in the Firefall novels of Peter Watts. "Experts" who upgraded themselves into crippled "savants", able to outperform all baselines, but incapable of feeling there own fingertips.

One can already feel that pressure, regarding substance abuse to stay awake longer and perform better with amphetamines and be more creative with hallucinogenics.

Imagine having to sacrifice ever more parts of yourselves, to stay relevant. What a horrific freak-show we will become..


> Imagine having to sacrifice ever more parts of yourselves, to stay relevant

The Little Gods by Jamie Wahls explores this very notion, in the context of a parent and her child, and how each respond to expectations of an augmented society.

http://compellingsciencefiction.com/stories/thelittlegods.ht...


That was a interesting read - thank you.


Don't know about you, but the thoughts in my head are such an unordered and incomprehensible mess that it is really hard for me to see any benefit of direct streaming. Typing the thoughts slowly down and rereading and evaluating consequenses multiple times is the only way to get any sense out from my head. And I like to think myself as relatively good thinker...


All I can say is, I'm glad I'll be dead in a handful of decades.


Suppose that while you're still around, a brain extension enables you to greatly extend your lifespan. Would you agree to the implant? Totally hypothetical, of course; I myself would not have a ready answer. But for paralyzed and nerve-damaged people, it seems to me adopting this technology would be a no-brainer, so to speak.


I think they already covered that in The Matrix


What about other thoughts? Does my employer get access to those?


Only for advertisement and performance reviews. You will have to change who you are to fit into the company, im afraid..


> You will have to change who you are to fit into the company, im afraid..

As if you don't have to already? The false consensus paradox in corporations is overwhelming.


Just meditate on your breath or play pazaak in your mind to distract the mind reading


I think it'll have to wait until a non-surgical BCI gets decent performance. The study in the article uses implanted electrodes - forced surgery would be a nightmare.


Lootboxes were the beginning of the end for the gaming industry. All the visionaries have moved on from triple A games and now its just by the numbers cookie cutter formula games with different underhanded tactics to extract as much money as possible from victims.


I'd argue this was only the end of the AAA industry, as they all shifted towards monetization, but has catalyzed the growth of indie games — which are more expressive and artistic than ever before.

Games like Outer Wilds removed any notion for what a game could look and feel and play like, for me


Either you have a very narrow definition of triple A or you're somewhat overstating the problem.

I'm not saying the problem isn't bad but "all AAA games are cookie cutter money extractors" seems somewhat of an exaggeration.


The most convincing way to refute is a counterexample.


Maybe.

But I suspect it would probably descend into goal-post moving or quibbling about definitions.

It's doesn't feel worth the amount of legalistic laying down of rules that it would require to be a fruitful debate.


In order to be tolerant we must remove everyone that does not agree


This is why "tolerance" basically doesn't exist. Nobody's truly tolerant, they're just tolerant or intolerant towards some particular combination of things.


I can tolerate anything except the outgroup!


tolerance generally excludes the intolerant, yes


please explain to us where it stops. For instance lets say I find it toxic to use comma in sentences. how many people do I need to find that agree with me on this before I can ban you from hacker news for toxicity?


It stops when folks stop focusing on a singular angle to create arguments in bad faith. There’s a thousand examples of behavior that shouldn’t be tolerated that at some point in the last 200 years, society tolerated. Likewise, there’s a thousand examples of behavior that wasn’t tolerated by society that we by and large think should be tolerated.

But instead of talking about the merits of the behavior, folks want to throw out the “tolerance” card.

You want that to stop? Then stop.


> But instead of talking about the merits of the behavior, folks want to throw out the “tolerance” card.

I don't think it works this way. When Selam Gano wrote her original hate piece, she concluded that people like Stallman need to be removed, and if necessary, MIT should be burned to the ground. What people? "Jeffrey Epstein. Marvin Minsky. Richard Stallman." The sentence has been passed.

She didn't demand an apology or a change of behavior. She wanted punishment. By putting Minsky next to Epstein, and Stallman next to Minsky, she wanted to create the impression that somehow the terrible monster, the AI pioneer and the founder of the GNU project are same kind of terrible scum that needs to be completely removed to make the world better.


Well you both seem to think it's acceptable to start a sentence with a lower case letter, so I think you'll get along just fine.


shouldnt there have been a comma after “well”?


I sort of agree with you on the comma thing; reducing usage of commas while using more semicolons would make for better reading.


I usually don't like people that don't use a full stop at the end of sentences ...


Comma usage, pedophilia endorsement, it's all basically the same.


this is a very obvious strawman... if you’ve been treating people poorly for decades you too may discover that publicly playing devils advocate for a convicted rapist may be the final straw.


The Paradox of Tolerance is mentioned every time when an intolerant hypocrite wants to paint himself as a tolerant person.


Isn't the problem with RMS that he is too tolerant? He is tolerant of people we find bad.



Popper would not have approved anything that happened in that cancel discussion.

Popper knew things like forgiveness, not taking single statements out of context, not reading too much into statements, not misquoting people and much more.

Please do not associate Popper with mob justice. He would have despised the mob.


Written in 1945, literally as a reaction to actual Nazism.

Now used as a cudgel to intimidate and harass everyone who does not follow the party line.

Often the harassers profit financially from their bigotry, which makes them gigantic hypocrites.


I live in Germany and have 4 children at 29, which seems to be about the average amongst my peer group. My brothers each have 2,5,3 children. We are not from Europe originally however so who knows maybe we haven't been exposed to plastics yet or it might be the fact that we're decently fit physically speaking.


Your peer group is far from average, though: https://www.statista.com/statistics/295397/fertility-rate-in...


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